4. General FAQ - Kaltokri DIY FFB Kits¶
Common questions and information applicable to all Kaltokri DIY conversion kits.
4.1 Kit Pricing Overview¶
All prices exclude shipping (calculated by destination country via DHL from Germany).
4.1.1 Complete Joystick Base¶
| Kit Name | Kit Price | Required Motor Kit | Motor Price | Total |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| RhinoJoystick | 349€ | 57BLF03 x2 + USB | 299€ + VAT | 648€ + VAT + shipping |
Optional Add-Ons: - Belt covers: +30€ - Aluminum grip mount upgrade: +65€ (VAT included)
4.1.2 Rudder Pedal Conversions¶
| Kit Name | Kit Price | Required Motor Kit | Motor Price | Total |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| RhinoMFG | 139€ | 57BLF03 + USB | 179€ + VAT | 318€ + VAT + shipping |
| RhinoMFG86 | 199€ | 86BLF03 + USB | 229€ + VAT | 428€ + VAT + shipping |
| RhinoTPR Inside | 159€ | 86BLF04 + USB | 249€ + VAT | 408€ + VAT + shipping |
| RhinoTPR Outside | 179€ | 86BLF04 + USB | 249€ + VAT | 428€ + VAT + shipping |
| RhinoACE | 199€ | 86BLF03 + USB | 229€ + VAT | 428€ + VAT + shipping |
| RhinoOrion | 159€ | 86BLF03 + USB | 229€ + VAT | 388€ + VAT + shipping |
| RhinoR1 | 199€ | 86BLF03 + USB | 229€ + VAT | 428€ + VAT + shipping |
Pricing Notes
- Kit prices: Fixed amounts listed above
- Motor kits: Sold separately by VPforce (prices include USB controller)
- VAT: Applied to motor kits based on buyer’s country
- Shipping: Calculated separately based on destination (DHL from Germany, ~5kg package)
- Total project cost: Kit price + motor kit price + VAT + shipping
4.2 Power Supply Requirements¶
Q: What PSU should I use?
A: Required specifications: 19V / 10A with 5.5-2.5mm DC connector.
Recommended Models:
- Germany: Innergie 180G (Amazon.de link)
- UK: JHZL Laptop PSU (Amazon.co.uk link)
- Universal: Meanwell LRS-350-24 PSU (Amazon link)
Meanwell LRS-350-24 Assembly Required
Meanwell LRS-350-24 requires custom enclosure and DC cable assembly. Suitable for powering multiple devices (Rhino joystick + FFB pedals). See wiring video and TRC-LRS-350 Enclosure.
DC Connector Quality:
High-quality DC connectors are critical. Low-quality no-name connectors from Amazon may fail under amperage loads. Invest in quality components.
Recommended Connectors:
- DC connector cable: Amazon link
- Fork cable lugs (smallest red): Amazon link
Share Your PSU Experience
If you find a reliable PSU that works well, please share your feedback with Kaltokri to help future customers.
4.3 Shipping and Delivery¶
Q: What are the shipping costs?
A: Kits ship via DHL from Germany. Worldwide shipping available.
- Standard package weight: 5kg
- Shipping cost calculated by destination country
- Check DHL pricing calculator for estimates
- Contact Kaltokri with your country for exact shipping quote
Q: How long does it take to assemble and dispatch?
A: All kits are generally in stock and can be shipped approximately 2-3 working days after payment is received.
- Dispatch timing may vary based on parts availability
- Payment order determines dispatch priority
- Special requests may cause minor delays
4.4 Payment and Ordering¶
Q: How can I pay?
A: Two payment methods available:
- Bank transfer (preferred): No additional fees
- PayPal: Additional payment fees apply
Order process:
- Contact Kaltokri via email or VPforce Discord
- Receive invoice with payment details
- Payment order determines dispatch sequence
International Transfer Fees
Some banks charge excessive international transfer fees ($50+). Check with your bank first. If fees are prohibitive, contact Kaltokri to arrange alternative payment method.
4.5 Assembly and Complexity¶
Q: Is it complicated to assemble?
A: No. Kits designed for straightforward assembly:
- Skill level: No soldering required. Anyone with basic mechanical skills can assemble.
- Time required: One evening (3-4 hours typical)
- Pre-assembly: Most complex components (Rhino Joystick kit) pre-assembled by vendor
Required Tools:
- Crimping pliers and wire end ferrules for VPforce motor kit (example tool)
- Slotted screwdrivers
- Metric allen key set
- Small TORX driver (for mainboard)
- Basic tools (knife, etc.)
Assembly Assistance
If you encounter problems during assembly, contact Kaltokri via email or VPforce Discord for assistance. Parts fit tightly but should not require excessive force.
4.6 Warranty and Returns¶
Q: Do I have warranty or right of return?
A: No. These are DIY kits with the following characteristics:
Nature of Product:
- DIY kits with procured materials and custom 3D-printed parts
- 3D printing done by Winger or Kaltokri in PETG (durable material)
- 3D-printed parts cannot match injection-molded plastic quality
- Parts assembled and printed to order
No Warranty, No Returns
Warranty, return, and exchange are excluded due to custom assembly nature. Vendor provides support for questions and problems that arise.
Quality References:
Customer feedback available on:
4.7 VPforce Motor Kits¶
All kits require VPforce motor electronics:
| Motor Kit | Price (EUR + VAT) | Used In |
|---|---|---|
| 57BLF03 x2 Dual | 299 + VAT | RhinoJoystick |
| 57BLF03 Single | 179 + VAT | RhinoMFG |
| 86BLF03 Single | 229 + VAT | RhinoMFG86, RhinoACE, RhinoOrion, RhinoR1 |
| 86BLF04 Single | 249 + VAT | RhinoTPR Inside, RhinoTPR Outside |
Order from: VPforce Controls Website → “Order FFB Kits” section
Motor Compatibility
Each conversion kit is designed for a specific motor model. Do not substitute motors - mechanical mounts and force characteristics are optimized for specified motor types.
4.8 Contact¶
Email: [email protected]
VPforce Discord: Contact kaltokri directly via private message
Ordering: Email preferred, Discord PM accepted
Feedback and suggestions for improvement welcome.
Vendor Credits:
Kits designed by VPforce Discord community members (Hiob, FlyDoc, Smitty, Number481, Mike T, others) | Kit assembly, procurement, and support by Kaltokri | VPforce motor electronics by Walmis